Were you wearing clothes at the time or underwear at the time?A No.Q And was he? Or his were pulled down?A Correct.Q So was there direct skin-to-skin contact between your genitals and his?A I think very briefly. I don’t -Q Did you think it would lead to intercourse?A Not on that day.Q Was that sort of the reason for doing the gesture -A Yes.Q – or trying to – moving his closer to yours?A Then I – not that we would have intercourse that day, but that that might make him want to.Q OK. I mean, talking about what we were thinking and feeling and doing and laughing …Q Did you ever think that … anything real could – and truthful and honest – could have come from this relationship?A Yes.Q With this married man?A I did.Q Yes Back to the contacts? .. On page 7, on the 29th of March .. “Private encounter, approximately 1:30 or 2:00 p.m., study President on crutches. Physical intimacy including oral sex to completion and brief direct genital contact.” Brief direct genital contact, could you just elaborate on that a bit? …You could close your eyes and talk We won’t look at you.A … Uh I had – I had wanted – I tried to – I placed his genital next to mine and had hoped that if he – oh – this is just too embarrassing. I mean, it wasn’t like you went out on dates or anything like that, like normal people, so what more was it?A Oh, we spent hours on the phone talking It was emotional.Q Phone sex?A Not always On a few occasions I mean, we were talking I mean, interacting.

I took it with me up to New York and was going to clean it up there and then this broke, so -Q Okay. Your relationship with the President, did your mother at any time try to discourage the relationship?A Oh, yes.Q Well, what kept it going? I mean, what kept it – you keeping it active or whatever?A I fell in love …Q You said the relationship was more than oral sex. And then when Thanksgiving time came around and I told her that I was going to wear it for Thanksgiving, she told me I looked fat in the dress, I shouldn’t wear it She brought me a jacket from her closet .. to try to persuade me not to wear the dress. So I ended up not wearing it and then I was going to clean it. And she told me that I should put it in a safe deposit box because it could be evidence one day.And I said that was ludicrous because I would never .. disclose that I had a relationship with the President. if I remember correctly, I didn’t really realize that there was anything on it until I went to go wear it again …

I had shown the dress to Linda at that point and had just sort of said to her … “Isn’t this stupid?” Or, you know, “Look at this, isn’t this gross?” Or whatever I don’t really remember exactly what I said. some of the things I said about Mr Jordan, I said, you know, oh, the President told me I have to lie …Q Monica, why did you keep that black dress? .. Blue dress.A .. I didn’t have a reason … Linda always told me she would always protect me and she would never tell anybody and keep my secret, up until the Paula Jones case came about.Q When you said that in your conversations with Linda Tripp you kind of had to exaggerate some things about the president to her, you exaggerated on some of the things you said to her about the president -A I’m not sure about that.

I – I don’t know if exaggerate is the right – is maybe the word I would choose.Q … Why do you think that you had to not tell her some things that did actually happen, true things, in talking to her?A There were some occasions, one in particular that I remember, when I didn’t disclose a contact that I had with the president – .. after the Paula Jones case, I was scared to death I mean, I was panicked that she was going to tell So … after he greeted me and talked to me, he was talking to a whole bunch of people in and around my area … I had my back to him and I just kind of put – put my hand behind me and touched him.Q Touched him in the crotch area?A Yes.Q Did anybody see you?A No. And it wasn’t – it wasn’t a – it was maybe sort of a grazing over of that area, but it wasn’t, it wasn’t how you might imagine it if someone described this, from a scene from a movie It wasn’t like that, but it was – you know .. It was just – playful. …Q Were there times when the president would touch you either on the breasts or in the genital area directly to the skin or was it always through clothing?A Directly to the skin Both.Q …